tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25200961.post7013188348242287034..comments2024-03-14T09:50:40.819+00:00Comments on Dr Grumble: Tooke for the Tower?Dr Grumblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04417731064007601504noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25200961.post-90441261174890951932008-04-27T18:17:00.000+01:002008-04-27T18:17:00.000+01:00Red Adair had it right when he said:If you think i...Red Adair had it right when he said:<BR/><BR/>If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25200961.post-7458320619747819872008-04-27T12:39:00.000+01:002008-04-27T12:39:00.000+01:00Even Sir John cannot quite bring himself to the nu...Even Sir John cannot quite bring himself to the nub of the problem which he talks around. He delicately refers to those who pursue 'a medical practitioner role' and then says that these people require the sort of depth of education that a doctor has had. He hasn't quite said that those who do a doctor's job need to be doctors and that others just do not have the right resources. He would have risked appearing arrogant if he had made his point crystal clear. Many doctors have been so convinced that you need a doctor to do a doctor's job that they have not felt the need to risk shouting this fundamental truth from the rooftop. But we should have. Managers really do not understand just how difficult the process of clinical reasoning which leads to diagnosis is. They fail too to grasp that much of medicine just cannot be protocolised. Didn't you have some posts on the madness of protocols, Dr G?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25200961.post-71986798226627249382008-04-26T13:59:00.000+01:002008-04-26T13:59:00.000+01:00I am sure Sir Tooke went around reading what blogg...I am sure Sir Tooke went around reading what bloggers say and used some of information to form his report. This is exactly what a good capable professional must do if s/he is to present accurate and fair findings and solutions. This is why his report is so popular, because it is fair.<BR/><BR/>I am glad he is not keeping quiet ... no one should!<BR/><BR/>Not for the towers, if anyone can see senseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25200961.post-89349325545668042712008-04-26T13:04:00.000+01:002008-04-26T13:04:00.000+01:00Thanks, Grumble, for pointing this out.Much wisdom...Thanks, Grumble, for pointing this out.<BR/><BR/>Much wisdom and sense here.<BR/><BR/>Doubtless the Government will use the age old tactics to undermine an expert report as so wickedly shown in Yes, Minister.Jobbing Doctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15556376882759955757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25200961.post-36103778265785188802008-04-26T11:10:00.000+01:002008-04-26T11:10:00.000+01:00Isn't it time that all the doctors' professional a...Isn't it time that all the doctors' professional associations, and all the Royal Colleges, and all the doctors in parliament, got together and publically and unanimously said they stood 100% behind Tooke, Dr G? Tooke certainly seems to be prepared to say the things that matter, and in unvarnished language, but it must surely be time for the profession to get behind him, with the press in attendance. I suppose the difficulty is how to back him while not invoking the wrath of all the other "health professions", since the Govt has got a long way on that old Macchiavellian principle of "dive et impera" <BR/><BR/>But... as you said in another post, with the Govt looking a bit shaky, now might be the time.PhD scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00653179299453839890noreply@blogger.com